Li Yuzhuo: work does not bring happiness to lose its significance
- “Ren Zhengfei I can do, can not ask others like him.”
- “We do business, economic development, all for what? Are for a happy life. If the results of a difference of thousands of miles with a happy life, that work would be meaningless.”
- “Huawei has a great side, but in my eyes there are a lot of crisis, if appropriate attention and improvement, it may become a major problem.”
Li Yuzhuo its people
57 years old, vice president of Huawei, 18-year career in professional managers, and Stone, Huawei, Leader & Harvest and other famous high-tech enterprises closely linked. Stone for eight years, Huawei four and a half, he served as vice president are, Leader & Harvest five and a half, he put an insolvent company made the industry the first transformer. This May, he introduced new book “I and the business leaders of cooperation and conflict,” detailing his personal experience of leading the development of enterprises inside.
Background dialogue
According to media reports, May 28, Shenzhen Huawei one only 25-year-old engineer Hu Xinyu, possibly because of continuous overtime late at night, fatigue leads to death. Huawei has not yet indicated. For a time, people began to seriously consider the reasonableness of overtime system, Huawei deep public whirlpools. Huawei's corporate culture, as people accused of overtime system object.
Just then, six years ago, left, vice president of Huawei Li Yuzhuo, in his new blog, throw a “why I left Huawei”, attracted users have hits, major Web sites have posted, Li Yuzhuo seemingly dared sensitive stand up when the public comment Huawei. The fact is that so? With doubt, the evening news on June 4 and Li Yuzhuo in the Building, a small teahouse in the vicinity were a half-hour dialogue.
I have a blog and “Karoshi” incident is not related
Youth weekend (hereinafter referred to as “Green Week”): to interview you, I visit your blog a bit and found that you are the May 30 opening of the blog, but click-through rate has reached more than 100,000 had.
Li Yuzhuo (hereinafter referred to as “Lee”): has now reached 250,000, and a variety of comments so I can not ward off. When the 18-year career manager, has never been such a great concern to the public over. This is absolutely not what I could have imagined before.
Green Week: What do you imagine what before?
Lee: Last year I spent a year writing a book, “I and the business leaders of cooperation and conflict”, in May on the publication. Publishers say the book is my effort condensation, is well-known rare book business executives, but also enterprise development insider, can not sit silently out, should let more people know. So I agree to the Sina opened a blog, also chose some sections of the book posted to a blog go up. I hope that some interested people can get some inspiration, nothing more.
Green Week: But you chose this time to open blog, and upload the first article is “why I left Huawei?” Do not know the recent “Huawei” is the news keywords it? You do not want to say something too?
Lee: book chapters is another election, the first chapter Why is this, is not relevant and current events, I do not know. I wanted to come may be only coincidental, wrote the article I left some information of Huawei. After look at the report did not know until recently because of Huawei's R & D personnel of a death caused everyone a lot of speculation that Huawei was chosen to describe this article with my link. In fact, my early finalization of the book, and now nothing happened.
Green Week: You know how he died? Why do people just find the answer you want?
Lee: No clear reality, I can not say. My friends are the contents of this section of the book the R & D personnel with Huawei's death linked up. But this is really a coincidence that I opened Bo, that coincidence caused misunderstanding. To be honest, I do not want to own a blog to become the focus of everyone guessing, I have my own reason does not want everyone to discuss. I want to live a quiet life, so I have decided to close the blog.
Disregard for health bosses can not ask others like him
Green Week: You said in the blog where you resign from Huawei, Ren Zhengfei then advise you to leave, but also encouraged with his wife divorced you, you were described as, “I looked at the face HU grudge, tall and majestic, the general is not reasonable who speaks with another flight, at times unexpected views of the people say, quite impressed in mind: to be a business is not easy, throw home care industry, the expense of health. Speaking of health, my mind would suddenly become positive non said one sentence: 'For this company, you see my body, what diabetes, hypertension, cervical spondylosis have, and you so well, not to do it?' implies, we had to wait for them to Leibing he was comfortable. wanted to present my heart: 'chief, you finally get up, I got coronary heart disease, Could you let me have lost around the house not a?' “
It would appear that your working conditions, Huawei is also very dissatisfied with it?
Li: Huawei's corporate philosophy I most agree, but there do not agree. 6 years ago, when I left Huawei, Huawei said the current chairman of SUN Ya, I do not accept the Huawei's corporate culture.
However, a complete book, excerpts of which were published in the individual paragraphs, people do not understand the book's information, discuss it happened. However, if the cool think about a lot of talk is not too emotional out?
Green Week: Join more than 4 years, as vice president, you also can not accept the Huawei enterprise culture?
Lee: Everyone will have their own value judgments and pursuit. I was the only one from outside the level of Huawei, Huawei other basic are grown up within the cadres, my mind has accepted this before anything else, such as four-way culture. Huawei to promote my book on some of the things in relation to this, but I do not necessarily follow that they are wrong, and I was right.
Huawei's corporate culture more core content is the responsibility of enterprises, innovation, professionalism, team spirit, I would like to see at any time, the problem is still small. After a lot of people into the Huawei will unconsciously accept the culture, development to the work and sleepless nights to the office to home, Ren Zhengfei I is like that.
Green Week: Do you think that corporate culture with your own idea of integration was not to go?
Lee: I left Huawei is certainly subjective and objective reasons. But that his physical problems, I would like is: health is the first one, I can no longer whether his body was. I would also like family, I do not want outside of work, nothing. So I determined to quit and returned to Beijing, and their families.
Green Week: You can not stand on, it really gives Huawei's system of work a lot of pressure.
Lee: I work at Huawei, Huawei is in the business of R & D, market building is very heavy, then we are relying on entrepreneurial passion in the dry, did not care about how physical problems. Had worked for some time, at least I found that, although I'm not working overtime, great work, mental stress or impact on the body.
Ren Zhengfei is a very selfless workaholic, far more important than the family business. But I think he can do, can not ask others like him ah. In my view, health is always the first one, not family, not a healthy society is dangerous.
I do not agree to work overtime culture
Green Week: The 25-year-old is said to Huawei R & D personnel is the third consecutive overtime a month, staying up late every day to do research and development, fatigue lead to death.
Li: Huawei to establish 18 years, I work four and a half Huawei has never heard of such a thing happened.
Green Week: a better understanding of the situation he found his friend dead and overtime fatigue should have a great relationship, Huawei is not completely deny this. Now, we regard the “Karoshi” and Huawei's corporate culture linked to discuss the major.
Lee: As management, I work to promote efficiency in the working hours should be done well. For users in the online discussion, Xiao-Hu's death overtime fatigue may be related, but not with Huawei's corporate culture necessary link, I hope you seriously.
Huawei start the first few years, there is ecstasy, into his work, I joined the Chinese and they are also precisely because of this spirit that the company failed to do so. At that time they did have a “cushion culture”, everyone standing on a seat cushion, overtime, sleeping, when brought, especially with Huawei characteristics.
Green Week: Do you have one?
Lee: Of course. Ren Zhengfei in his office also has a simple little bed. But I personally would not very promote overtime, do not call my staff to work overtime.
Green Week: So you do not agree to work overtime culture?
Lee: Yes.
Young people should refuse to fight fatigue
Green Week: enterprises in the brutal competition in the market, it is necessary to sacrifice some of the interests of the people: such as the normal daily routine, will dominate the market?
Lee: This is inevitable, but also a sacrifice to what degree. This sacrifice does not necessarily require you to non-healthy, not even the cost of life. Few companies required their employees so. Approach too must learn to refuse.
Green Week: as a junior youth, at the lowest level in a highly competitive environment, there is no way out, only going forward, how can I resist?
Lee: young junior, less experienced, the pressure is inevitable, it is bound to experience growth. But do not so healthy, I see no need. Sometimes, some urgent work, Gaga class is inevitable, especially in research and development work, sometimes do not put things out as soon as possible loss of market opportunity, but I do not believe every day, we all know war is often fatigue is not necessarily good results. In addition, a mature person should learn to extract.
Work can not bring happiness will be lost meaning
Green Week: too many people at the bottom to survive, for the future and working like mad to work hard, exhausting, even thought no time, so what is decompression?
Lee: We do business, economic development, all for what? For a happy life. If the results of a difference of thousands of miles with a happy life, that work would be meaningless. In fact, Huawei advocates do not let people like Lei Feng worn socks, do not let Jiao premature loss of such cadres to serve the people of the opportunity. As far as I know, overtime after 1996 with the pad, there are many employees in Huawei has become a lunch break with the equipment; Huawei back pay staff better, create better working conditions, living conditions, is to give employees They better life.
Green Week: Sometimes, it not because of high salaries, of finding there must Isao, to induce young people to sacrifice health selfless work?
Lee: Young people to work soon, the lack of work experience and life experience, in order to increase business, to achievement, the work will certainly have to pay, but it is not extreme to the health or even death to the detriment of the cost. Companies should also create a subtly humanistic care on the lives of young people to give due attention. For some workaholic will not rest, even forcing him to rest.
For individuals, should work as pleasure rather than a burden, we must learn to distinguish between their work and life boundaries; many young people have ideals, the pursuit, not all work for the money; the other hand young the adults, the work should be rational to treat the problem. Health is the greatest human capital, there is life, there is hope.
Green Week: Xiao-Hu-line many students and friends of the Huawei way of handling the problem is not quite agree that Huawei did not pay enough attention to their own fault, for a night and day staff overtime Taileng Mo, surprise, no one prior to to stop and he was always wanted to distance themselves from their responsibilities, said that only 13 40 000 pension, how do you think?
Li: Huawei is now working state what it is like, I do not too familiar with. I only know the situation six years ago, some of Huawei, specifically in this case, I do not know. According to my understanding of Huawei, I believe in this matter, they will make proper treatment.
Green Week: Do you think Huawei out of this, it will not adjust their corporate culture, reflect long-standing neglect of the people own the coordinated development of the problem?
Lee: Actually, just as I said before, Huawei in the development process has been continuously self-adjusting and improving it is the fastest growing companies to accept new things, or the scale of development would not have today's.
Huawei most difficult to write when I write a book
Green Week: The only 25-year-old young man went, we all feel sorry for a lot of people even in the online angrily denounced the evil of the overtime system, it was also imitate Mr. Lu Xun “remember Jane Liu Jun,” the format to write an article that many companies are now in pursuit of interests, is the expense of young people?
Lee: This young man's death whether Huawei's work, corporate culture and, I could not really regrettable that off. Happen one thing people deplore, or to alert businesses and the community a signal is indeed concerned about the health of employees can not be ignored, a very important thing, is people-oriented business an important embodiment.
But we can not be denied, Huawei in the revitalization of national communications industries, is made obvious achievements.
Green Week: Do results can not be concealed the problem?
Lee: I'm writing this book, that Huawei is the most difficult to write.
Huawei has a great side, but in my eyes there are a lot of crisis, a crisis they did not let that become an obstacle to its development, still high growth, it is clear I have no wish to place. Huawei's rapid growth can not be said, and there is no such question, then, if appropriate attention and improvement, may be a major problem.
Excursus
Unnatural death of a blog
Because “Karoshi” Let's attention to Huawei; as Huawei, Li Yuzhuo the blog into a reporter's perspective. However, this blog, from birth to death, less than a week, click on the rate of cells in more than 250,000. This less than a week soared to the data, for non-mass stars blog is really a miracle. Blog comments of praise or blame in different, delete the blog where they posted the article, posted it to delete, and finally shut down. The blog of “life” also indirectly reflects the blogger's ideological changes: from an impassioned speech to the words carefully, and finally altogether silent. What makes Li Yuzhuo silent?
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